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 Post subject: luck is a correlate of patience [and other thoughts]
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:35 am 
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luck is a correlate of patience. if you wait the cards, or situation will eventually come. i always keep in mind that one cannot win a tournement in a single hand but can certainly end it.

i don't consider someone a good player until they can fold kk or aa. and that is a very low threshold for the ascription of 'good'. all in preflop is a bigger risk than is commonly acknowledged. the odds changed dramatically with every card shown and pushing all your chips in with implied odds borders on nescience [with the addendum being: 'in typical situations']

i see all these people who just want to win pots. assert their dominance. verily it is a strategem like any other, worthy in its telos. but i never understand people who in the beginning of tournements love to bet two or three times the pot on a bluff. or people who just go all in early in tourneys. no matter what the other person has about a 17 percent chance of taking down the pot, even if dominated. i admit, sometimes i get sucked in- like earlier in a freeroll 3 people went all in the first hand in early position and i had aa on the button [i was busted, which only serves to prove my point].

maximizing payouts/offs is integral to success. if you play a limited number of pots you need to make the most of the hands in which you are confident of winning, even if that means risking losing the pot- which is easier to do with a decent stack, while in cash games you either want to take it down, or make the pot odds detrimental to the implied odds.

taking a standard amount of time to make your play, like ferguson, not only aggravates the people who wish to play as many hands as possible, tilting them- as they will make quicker decisions to overcompensate-, but it also substantially masks your own impulses.

my logic may succumb to the simple fact however that aggressive players usually win tourneys however. there inevitably comes a hand in which if you win you will be sitting pretty but if you lose you will be crippled. those are the hardest decisions but the ones which are easiest to live with. then i almost always go for the win, yet i'm beginning to think i should not switch horses midstream [i like how i managed to fit in about 5 platitudes into this last paragraph... flaubert would puke].


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 Post subject: Re: luck is a correlate of patience [and other thoughts]
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:31 pm 
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i agree with %100 patrance is the #1 key in tx heldem

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 Post subject: Re: luck is a correlate of patience [and other thoughts]
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:03 pm 
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:D Hey 'Arry'. I lost you at 'correlate' and didn't finish reading your post. Why didn't you just use my favourite poker rule and be done with it. Here it is, are you ready? 'Patience is a virtue'. AND, most applicable when playing poker. :D :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: luck is a correlate of patience [and other thoughts]
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Discipline is such a key to playing solid poker.

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 Post subject: Re: luck is a correlate of patience [and other thoughts]
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:42 pm 
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patience - patience - patience --- Then comes the Bad Beat!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: luck is a correlate of patience [and other thoughts]
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:42 am 
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Patience is a virtue BUT
patience runs tin when all-inners are taking over the table and forth you don't know if your hand is ever good cause of all the "not knowing" of whatever the other players are holding.....
Many post are about too many all-inners BUT
yopu have to understand that they never ever entered a casino or go play at a local pub or bar....They would end up going home without pants and probably would have to look for a shelter for they'd lose their house.......

Some of us are down on our luck in life and looking forward to freerolls to try to have a bank to at least play a few low stake tourny and get things popping...lol..But always ends up at a table with those who don't care,for them FREE is an "I don't care" and they realy don't care if they win or not.....

To me PATIENCE is overated: reminds me of the lion with the torn in his paw and waits and waits for that mouse to appear....


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 Post subject: Re: luck is a correlate of patience [and other thoughts]
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:54 am 
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while patience is the key to getting good hand it is no help to building your stack....I have had patience this tourney i am in now and have only seen 3 quality hand that if playing super tight would be the only ones i play (QQ,AK,KK) but i have noticed that getting involved in some mediocer hand such as A7 suited, KQ, AJ have got me to build my stack up (I am in the 10k guarenteed tourney that I won ticket to recently from the shark himself and currently sit in 11th with 9K due to playing a slightly wider range of hands and seeing cheaper flop although i am not letting completly loose just switchin up the play) so wish me luck as there are just over 200 ppl left and I am on my way to success!!! tourney can be found on AP tourney id # 4916229 alias-BRYANWOOLEY :D


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 Post subject: Re: luck is a correlate of patience [and other thoughts]
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:09 am 
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Best of luck to you sir and hopefully a SHARK can make it to the end......
Congrats on the ticket and best of luck at the table.....


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 Post subject: Re: luck is a correlate of patience [and other thoughts]
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:12 am 
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Thank you very much scalp love the support keeps my head up even when the blinds and antes go up lol!! C U ON THE TABLES!


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 Post subject: Re: luck is a correlate of patience [and other thoughts]
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:53 am 
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Well, KaZiBeTTa has won at least $58.37 so far! Keep going!


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 Post subject: Re: luck is a correlate of patience [and other thoughts]
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:00 am 
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Just passed the other pay bubble and now 27 ppl left with my winnings at the least $70.05 8) but i am now the short stack granted I still have 8.5k so you never know what is going to happen....thanks padre for the support and GL with the FR on power :D


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 Post subject: Re: luck is a correlate of patience [and other thoughts]
PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:43 am 
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patience is good but luck is key u can play any hand perfect on flop but its luck that wins out alot,skill u can have mad poker skills and get crushed by a donk that shoulda never been there after that flop dropped


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 Post subject: Re: luck is a correlate of patience [and other thoughts]
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:13 am 
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The best way of learning the patience is looking back at the unfortunate beatings that can be given....playing and loosing improves the smart player's paitence obviously, while the town idiot pushes for an all in to again defy the odds of growing a stack! Allot can parallel life with poker, so push your AA's, sit still on your 2's, and roll the odds with your possible ace high flush! Smell the flowers and enjoy the game! Let the poker Gods bless you!


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